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Public Places - Pet Friend or Foe?

What keeps you from taking your dog on more outings?

I was thinking about the “Question of the Day” on MDOG’s Facebook page from the other day about where people bring their dogs. It was pretty interesting to find out that I am not the only crazy person who brings my dogs to places that are deemed “inappropriate” for dogs. So, I am going solely on common knowledge and completely of my own opinions and deductions today. In the words of the immortal Sarah Palin, “I’m going rogue.”  Let it be known, I have done no (ok, maybe a little) research on this topic…

To me, my dogs are as close to having kids as I have right now. Like kids, I am happy at times that I can take them to the park for a couple hours and then put them in their crate while I go out. Actually, I probably have the advantage that way because I don’t think you can lock kids in a crate and get away with it long after they start learning how to speak. But there are many times, like normal human families, think to myself, “It’s too bad I couldn’t bring the dogs along.  They would have loved doing this.” 

Usually, the reason I can’t bring them isn’t because they couldn’t participate in the actual activity they would have loved but they couldn’t come on the errands afterward. If I go to the beach on a cooler day or on an outing then want to stop for lunch/dinner or do some shopping after, what would I do with them? I can’t leave them in the car unless it’s really cool outside (but then I would likely not be out gallivanting around anyway because I hate cold). 

Truth is I’m not alone! In 2009, The Associated Press released a statistic that 50 percent of pet owners considered their pet as family members with equal status to that of human family members. In 2011, that number grew to 81 percent!!! PLUS, at least four people who follow the posts on the MDOG FB page. Because of this, there is a growing trend for pet friendly public places…or at least I am going to create one  ;) 

Locally, Evergreen Walk in South Windsor made a big deal a couple of years ago about becoming dog friendly. Now dog owners can clearly see which stores dogs are allowed into and what size dogs are allowed ( I would assume they would not want a bull in a china shop… literally). Landmark Café on Main Street in Manchester and Hartford Road Pizza (on Hartford Road, duh) allow outdoor dining with dogs too. Being a Townie, those are the only three locations that willingly allow your dogs.  I snuck Gryphon into Walmarts for a couple of months when he was a puppy until I got caught one summer day by the manager. They allowed me to continue shopping that day because it was obviously too hot to leave a dog in the car and I SWORE I was just running a quick errand but I stopped the sneaking after that. I also recently brought him along to my appointment at my hairdresser. They fell in love with him and he is welcome back anytime. 

So why don’t most places allow dogs inside? Well, for food places, I would guess it has to do with Health Code Regulations. Although, many places won’t even let you sit outside with your dog anymore. I cannot understand why this is because it’s not like the dogs are going to be in touch with any place the food is prepared and birds can poop on where it is served (which is 100 percent more unsanitary than dog spit). My brother lived in Germany for several years while he served in the Air Force. He said that people bring their dogs to a restaurant more often than they do their children. That could very well be because dogs mature at a faster rate than children and are, when trained properly, more well-behaved. While dogs do not always behave well, I have never seen one barking incessantly while jumping up and down on the chair of a bistro while the owner quietly and politely asked for 45 minutes that they not do that. I cannot say the same for children and parents. Maybe the Germans have it all right. 

As for other stores, I’m guessing they are avoiding liability. Which is kind of ignorant, at least in CT, because rarely would someone win a lawsuit against a store for a dog that is with its owner causing an issue. Since dogs are property, they are treated as such in court. No one could sue Walmart if a little old lady started hitting people with her umbrella just because they let that umbrella through the door.

I will yield to the regulations against dogs in grocery stores or stores that carry groceries (Super Walmart, Target, etc.). My dogs can be sneaky and I would be devastated and completely embarrassed if they stole something. Although, if it were Zuzu, I would know right away because Gryphon would tell on her but I am not blind to his antics either and as innocent as he tends to be, he is not always. I’m done with sneaking my dogs in places they “don’t belong” - they’re too big for it anyway - but not with wishing I could. 

I will also concede that people do not always make the best decisions when it comes to bringing their dogs out in public. I have seen some irresponsible things, not just at events, but in general when it comes to public behavior with dogs. As owners, we need to realize that not everyone thinks our dogs are sweet and cute and fuzzy and bad behaviors that we brush off as loving parents are not as endearing to strangers. 

So today, I vow, I will talk to my State Representative (you know who you are or at least your wife will tell you) soon and see what he can do for us so the whole family can go on outings. I'm not implying at all that people should be forced to allow pet owners to bring their dogs along, simply that businesses that are doing so for precautionary reasons no longer need to be as concerned. I’m pretty sure it won’t be on the list of priorities but it could be one of those feel good things politicians do on occasion. Maybe, just maybe, I’ve sparked a little inspiration in my readers and you will do the same. 

In the meantime, here are a few tips to make dog outings ok for everyone…

Tips for People Dining With Dogs

  • If your pooch is not ready for prime time, don’t put him on the stage. Train and socialize your dog to behave like it is going to be a service dog, which is generally overlooked by everyone.

  • Sit at a table where your dog can be out of the way, both of other customers and the waitstaff.

  • Be alert for the comings and goings of others so you can anticipate issues before they occur.

  • If your dog acts up, leave. No fuss, no muss. Apologize, if appropriate. Imagine yourself doing better the next time.

  • Patronize dog friendly restaurants, even if you don’t have the fur kids with you, and personally thank management for their policy.

  • And as a general tip for all pet owners, PICK UP AFTER YOUR DOG. This is the one common gripe shared by everyone. The thoughtlessness of some pet owners is extended to anyone and everyone holding a leash.


Tips for People Dining Near Dogs  

  • Ignore the dog. If you see me enjoying a relaxing meal, my dog lying peacefully at my feet, please don’t approach us asking if you can pet the pooch. In exchange, I won’t come over to your table and scratch behind the ears of your kid and get her all worked up.
  • Ask for permission. If you simply can’t resist, please ask for permission to approach us before you stick your hand in my dog’s face. And don’t get hurt feelings if I say no.

  • Be open minded. If you don’t like seeing dogs at restaurants, figure out what really has you bothered and see if it has any basis in fact.

Courtesy GoPetFriendly.com How Friendly are Dog Friendly Restaurants?
Part 2by rburkert.

Until next time... See you at the dog park!

Joel July 23, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Alysia, what comment would you be reffering to?
Chris S July 23, 2012 at 10:30 pm
I live in a very dog friendly, touristy town (Port Jefferson, NY) and many of the
businesses have "doggie bars" set up outside their shops for the visiting dogs (many take the Bridgeport Ferry over from CT with their owners) and one of our ice cream stands offers doggie cups. We even have a bed and breakfast in town that allows dog guests ( The Ransome Inn).
John Martin July 23, 2012 at 11:07 pm
We take Mollie with us when we travel and often when we run errands. She is often
better behaved then many of the children I see in the stores. In fact, I watched a rather messy tantrum in the supermarket this afternoon. We carry baggies and clean up after her - and she is generally good about going before we enter a store. I don't think I've ever had to deal with her mess inside a store - including the pet stores. And these are places where dogs are very likely to want to leave their 'calling card'. Unfortunately, there aren't too many pet-friendly businesses around here. The Promenade Shops in South Windsor is largely pet-friendly (they have signs on the door telling you the degree of control they require). I have internet friends from the west coast that tell me that there a lot of pet-friendly businesses - including restaurants - out there. This is one west coast trend I wouldn't mind seeing migrate out here.
M Miller July 23, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Well said Gary. I too am a dog lover and and animal lover in fact - from a very close perspective as we have and have had several pets through the years including dogs. Nothing breaks my heart more than to see animals neglected or abused. That said, I too wince when hear people refer to their pets as children and themselves as parents. There is nothing wrong or "politically incorrect" about referring to yourself as a pet owner. A responsible pet owner provides everything an animal needs - nutritious food, medical care, shelter, exercise if needed and most of all love. Yes, we provide these things (or should) to our children. But when we refer to animals as our children, we then elevate them to a level where we expect everyone to accept them in all places that people frequent - stores, restaurants, beaches. Expecting this type of access and acceptance is ridiculous. I don't care how well groomed or well behaved your dog is, dogs do not belong in restaurants and in most stores. I also believe that dogs should only be allowed on beaches where steps have been taken to make it a dog friendly beach. I know this from experience. Many years ago I took my dog to a public beach in the off season. She proceeded to relieve herself the minute we hit the sand. I was mortified and the people sitting near were rightfully grossed. I could not apologize enough. I learned my lesson. Another thing, dressing dogs up does nothing but annoy them. Love your dog and let them love you back - as a dog.
M Miller July 23, 2012 at 11:43 pm
John,
Comparing children to a dog is ridiculous. Why is it when dog-owners want to make a point, they often do it at the expense of children? Agreed, nothing is more annoying than a parent who allows a child's bad behavior to escalate. But before I pass judgement I try to give the child and parent the benefit of the fact that maybe the child is hungry or tired. Agreed that eating dinner in a nice restaurant with rowdy screaming kids is unappetizing but not as unappetizing as eating in a restaurant where dogs are about. I am going to surmise that you don't have grandchildren. Maybe migrating to the West coast would take the curmudgeon out of you.
Alysia Duke July 23, 2012 at 11:59 pm
@ Joel -Eunice commented on the energy spent on the blog. I respect the comment, just don't uunderstand the reference to a blog about pets.
In reference to referring to my dogs as children, I don't. :) I said they were the closest I have to children but I do compare the behaviors with children. I am not opposed to people calling their dogs their children buut I do call mine dogs. Thank you to everyone. I'm glad I was able to provoke some conversation. ;)
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 01:22 am
M,
You make very good pints about not passing judgement on a situation with a child before taking some factors into consideration. I will say, yes I do become irritated when I see a child behaving badly in public. However, the ownership of the problem always boils down to the responsible person, whether parent or pet owner. I think it's safe to say that many dog owners are comparing what is acceptable behavior in the eyes of the responsible individual and very often pet owners are more criticized (sometimes rightly so) than parents. Unacceptable behavior is such whether it comes from a dog or a child.
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 01:22 am
please see my comment at the bottom.
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 01:25 am
There are definitely strong arguments on both sides.
Playing devil's advocate again, isn't if fair to say that there is no way every restaurant will become pet friendly. Wouldn't you be able to choose to go elsewhere if you do not wish to dine outdoors with a dog just as I choose never to eat at Chuckie Cheese, no matter how much I love my neices and nephews (all 7 of them)?
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 01:27 am
Thank you Fay! I certainly never thought this blog would be so provocative. LOL. Keep reading. Hopefully you'll have just as much fun reading. ;)
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 01:29 am
Thank you for clarifying Nancy.
John Martin July 24, 2012 at 01:35 am
And who is calling who a curmudgeon? All I said is that my pet is often better behaved than people's children. I could also say that my nieces and nephews are better behaved. In my family, we have a policy of raising children - and pets - correctly.
I read one of your earlier comments - maybe you are confused. I don't treat my dog like a human child - she is my dog. She is a well-behaved, affectionate, and important member of our family. She goes on vacations with us and has been trained in proper behavior in a variety of public places. I don't demand that all accommodations be open to pets, but I tend to frequent those that are pet-friendly. I like spending time with my dog and she likes 'adventures'. Frankly, it seems like you are the one who is running around calling the youn'uns 'whippersnappers' and acting in a curmudgeonly manner. Relax, M.
M Miller July 24, 2012 at 01:42 am
My problem is not the fact that people want to have access to dog-friendly restaurants even if I don't agree with this concept. My objection is comparing the behavior of a child to that of a dog. I would think you would not appreciate having your nieces' and nephews' behavior compared to a dogs. I have eaten at Chuckie Cheese with my kids many years ago and am glad they have outgrown that lol!
Craig H July 24, 2012 at 02:13 am
My dogs go to work with me and with that come and run a lot of errands with me too. I have been to a few restaurants in west Hartford center eating outside with no problems. They lay next to me and don't touch anyone. I don't see the problem with that. If there is a problem you have the ability to eat indoors where the dogs are not allowed. When I go to NYC I enjoy seeing all the dogs at the outdoor seating having lunch or dinner. If you have allergies feel free to let someone know and again you have the ability to eat indoors. If I am arriving with my dog and you were there first feel free to let me know and I will either wait or make another plan. But if you are outdoors you will be exposed to allergens. I don't believe they should be allowed in restaurants. They have enough to try and keep clean without dealing with fur.
M Miller July 24, 2012 at 02:20 am
John,
You need to re-read posts before commenting. The word 'whippersnappers' or "youn'uns" never appeared in ANY of my posts, You know that my objection to your comment was comparing the behavior of a child to that of a dog. There is no comparison. The line between caring for a child and caring for a pet has gotten a little too blurred these days. I love my kids and I love my pets but I keep it in perspective.
Daniella Ruiz July 24, 2012 at 09:38 am
yeeesh! dogs that drag their butts on the floor are usually infected with some parasite, worms or disease that is CONTAGIOUS and not food friendly. many owners have no clue to the behaviors of their own pets and worse, fail to recognize when a pet is in distress. i would press for restrictive health regulations regarding public access to food service areas for pets of any sort.
Daniella Ruiz July 24, 2012 at 09:49 am
and to think i cozied up with a nice warm cow in a barn one cold night long ago to avoid freezing. what was i thinking! talk about heat! nice soft hay, the distinct sound of massive lungs exchanging air, the gurgle of whatever, as it went through the belly of the cow and the little mice scurrying about in the dark. and i survived to write about it 30 years later! farm living offers a vastly different perspective, regarding all forms of life and food.
Daniella Ruiz July 24, 2012 at 09:56 am
m miller >> when i heard about health insurance, major/minor surgeries, facelifts, etc, for dogs, and pets in general, i realized the 'line' you mentioned was completely gone.
John Martin July 24, 2012 at 10:32 am
M...I believe you called me a curmudgeon. In those scooby doo cartoons, the curmudgeons used whippersnapper and such.
Satire M. Relax. Seems like you are the one who is ramped up on this non-issue. I would write more but I am taking my dog for a walk...
Fay Abrahamsson (Editor) July 24, 2012 at 10:52 am
Eunice - thanks for your comment, but you are putting words in my mouth. I never said I wanted children or missed having children (thus the big sister comment). I said I didn't have children. Not the same thing.
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Fay, I address one of Eunice's comments below but I'm not quite sure if I can follow how her comments fit into this fun and exciting conversation. I'd just let it go. ;)
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Haha Chris, I must say that I would be completely and utterly impressed to see someone with more than 2 dogs behaving well at a restaurant together. Usually, I have a companion with me when I take both dogs along. ;)
Alysia Duke July 24, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Daniella,
Can you please send me some information on the facelifts for pets. I would be very interested in writing about that. I've never heard of such a thing. I will say that pet insurance is a very good investment for people with pets though. While I do not have it currently, there have been a number of times when I wished I had. Because of their breed, both of my dogs suffer from occassional bouts of GI issues. My young dog became suddenly blind due to rapid onset of cataracts at 3 years old (who would have remained blind for another 17 years if we had chosen not to do the surgery & yes, people say they adjust but this dog was full of life one day and two weeks later, not). I vaccinate my dogs annually (or as required) with more than the state "required" vaccinations to keep them healthy. I also feed them a quality food to assist with any skin issues they have. With the rising cost of your healthcare, why would it be any different for pets. All these things are either completely or partially covered under Pet Care insurance policies. If I had it to do all over again, I would have spent the $70 a month (for both dogs) to save thousands on all the unpredictable stuff I never thought would happen. Pet Care Insurance is about quality of life, not just for the dog, but for the owners as well.
M Miller July 24, 2012 at 02:48 pm
Ok John, now I get it. Believe me I am relaxed. It takes a lot more to get me wired than a subject like this. Oops, gotta go. My niece just stepped in a pile of dog poo and is having a meltdown!
Nancy Wilkie July 24, 2012 at 03:45 pm
My earlier comment was in response to someone on this blog stating that Home Depot and Lowes are pet friendly. I stated that their corporate policy is "no dogs allowed" but of course, they welcome service dogs. In the interest of customer relations, they overlook shoppers bringing dogs into the stores. I hope this clears up the reason for my comment.
Chris S July 25, 2012 at 11:13 am
Alysia, no lie, I actually saw a woman and her husband eating outside at what
is a considered a nice establishment (Leunig's Bistro) in Burlington Vt. With their 5 medium to large size dogs and they were perfectly behaved! It was a marvelous sight. Enjoy your pups. : )
John Martin July 26, 2012 at 12:39 am
Read this in the Wall Street Journal - thought it was timely...
http://goo.gl/dhaJS
Alysia Duke July 26, 2012 at 01:05 am
Thank you John, that was very interesting. Since I was focused on making my own argument, I completely forgot to look at it from a recovering economy point of view. The article read that these restaurants that chose to cater to dog owners have increased revenue 20-25%. As soon as I saw the first numbers, I saw where it was going and I feel a little ashamed for not thinking of that myself. ;) Thanks for sharing, that was a great article.
Beverly Miller July 27, 2012 at 02:14 am
I would like to comment on pet insurance because my experience has been poor. Have 2 dogs and initially bought the best (most coverage) policy from a well known national company at the cost of well over $1,000 per dog for the annual premium. As a first time dog owner, I wanted to do my best for them. Both dogs were young ( one 2 years and the other 3 months), had no health issues and were quickly approved for coverage. Next, the fun began. Both dogs had their wellness exams, routine shots and monthly doses of heart worm and flea/tick preventative products. All procedures and products covered by the policy. Next, they each developed some serious ( VERY expensive) health issues within that first year of coverage. So, I believed I had been wise to purchase pet insurance. WRONG! Like the government and human insurance companies, the 'approved' payment for each service was predetermined as 'customary and reasonable' which was 20% or more less than the charge. But the big kick in the butt was when the puppy nearly died from what the pet insurance company deemed to be a genetic condition so coverage was a big fat $0 toward the $3,000 + cost billed by the vet, hospital and surgeon. I gladly paid the bills and my puppy is now 2 years old and thriving. So, my point is pet insurance is not very helpful and I have decided the hassle is not worth it so I no longer have it. If anyone has had a good experience with pet insurance, I am happy for you.
Alysia Duke July 27, 2012 at 02:32 pm
Thanks for that feedback Beverly. I have heard mixed responses about pet insurance. From what I have gathered, it sounds like it could be a crap shoot, just like with any other insurance policy. I feel like if I had purchased it, I would have save quite a bit. The problem is that you never know when you are going to need it or what is going to happen. I did do some investigation on it after my puppy had cataracts (I was just curious and under a couple of policies it would have been covered). There are some policies out there that cover many genetic conditions, some under the condition that the dog is pre-tested for that condition and is negative before signing on but not many.
All in all it's important to know, do a thorough investigation on what is and isn't covered and under what conditions before purchasing a policy because maybe pet insurance isn't for you. In addition, if your insurance policy does not cover the entire expense, talk with your vet to see if they can help you with the rest (bring the cost down even just a little). It doesn't hurt to at least ask. Thanks again Beverly.

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